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- From: Dick Menninger <Dick.Menninger@daytonoh.attgis.com>
- Newsgroups: comp.std.c++
- Subject: Re: hash_XXX containers?
- Date: 05 Feb 1996 18:35:14 PST
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- Originator: austern@isolde.mti.sgi.com
-
- > ==========Steve Clamage, 2/4/96==========
-
- > Eugene Lazutkin <eugene@int.com> writes:
- >
- > >What is a current status of a *Subj* proposal? Is C++ Standard
- > >Committee going to accept them or not? What was a problem?
- > >How was it solved, if it was?
-
- > A proposal was received for adding hash tables to the STL part
- > of the standard C++ library. Without addressing its technical
- > merit, the C++ Committee decided it was not possible to deal with
- > the proposal and still have any chance of meeting the schedule.
-
- > The proposal (or perhaps a modified version) was resubmitted
- > later. Again without considering the technical merit, the
- > Committee noted that the time situation had not changed, and
- > it was still not possible to consider the proposal.
-
- > To elaborate on the problem of time, nearly two years after
- > accepting the original STL proposal, details are still being
- > tweaked. The hash table proposal is about half the size of
- > the original STL proposal. Even if we had the resources to
- > devote to analyzing it, we could not afford to add another
- > year to the schedule.
-
- > For every person who wants just one more vital feature added to
- > the draft, someone else wants the standard to be declared
- > finished and published. The Committee has decided not to add
- > any more features, and to fix the remaining problems with
- > what we already have.
-
- Since I have been something of a pot sturrer on similar
- issues, it may come as a surprise that I completely endorse
- this stand as the only possible course for the committee.
- The language has not fully grown up, particularly in STL-related
- issues. Yet it desparately needs to leave home and grow up
- after it does.
-
- Actually, much of my pot sturring has been pointed at getting
- people to think about how to continue helping it grow out of
- some a rather awkward adolescence in some areas without
- a major schedule wait. The process to make it a standard
- is not really under control of the committee, rather they have
- to live with most of it being imposed on them. It may not fit
- this case as well as some others, but processes are like that.
- The key is to keep the process from stunting the growth during
- a key time of growth (why do schedules have such an uncanny
- ability to find such awkward points in development?).
-
- So, how does growth continue in such a forced, imperfect
- circumstance? "It will not be in the standard" has to be
- a premise of ANY answer.
-
-
- Good Day
- Dick
- Dick.Menninger@DaytonOH.ATTGIS.COM
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